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Click a plan below to up now and get right back to reading. up. Already a GirlsChase. Log in here. In Colt's piece on female intrasex competitionseveral commenters asked about the problem of getting a girl into a casual relationship, and keeping her there.
To quote Sam, one of the commenters there:. The problem, of course, is that "friends with benefits" is not an end goal for most women. That is to say, a casual sexual relationship - where you are a lover and nothing more - just ain't enough. You can maintain casual relationships for varying lengths of time, depending on a of factors, mainly having to do with the stage in her life a girl is at, and your value relative to hers in the relationship.
We'll talk more about both of these below. But the main gist of this article will focus on the four 4 stages that every friends with benefits relationship must follow:. Chase woke up one day in tired of being alone. So, he set to work and read every book he could find, studied every teacher he could meet, and talked to every girl he could talk to to figure out dating. After four years, sc of lays, and many great girlfriends plus plenty of failures along the wayhe launched this website.
He will teach you everything he knows about girls in one single program in his One Date System. Maybe something was missing inside of me that no woman could ever fulfill.
Sometimes I didn't even want FWB status at all; I just purely wanted the benefits without being friends at all, and I had the nerve to get mad at girls when they got mad at me for requesting this arrangement. Kind of ridiculous. A Average to thick girls wanting fwb look here.
But thinking back on my early days with girls, the only time I ever felt like I SWOONED back then was when a rare girl came along, unexpectedly, that was gorgeous intelligent and extremely exciting. But it's kind of interesting how that all played out because there were all those women that I met that I was relatively indifferent toward and didn't care one way or the other whether or not they wanted a relationship, because my mind was already made up not to have one.
Then suddenly one appeared on the scene and she effortlessly caused my indifference to evaporate I loved the enthusiasm. Without her first having to experience the uncertainty of whether or not the new liaison will develop into something more, and her having to do some work e. Guess it makes sense then to keep your composure, and even if a woman makes you SWOON try your hardest to remain non-plussed. And put her to work if she wants to keep you, especially in case she's been a victim of FWB's before meaning she's used to having to work Average to thick girls wanting fwb look here being someone's GF.
When it comes to a man sharing his enthusiasm with his new woman especially one who effortlessly makes him SWOONwhat's a good strategy? Use non-verbals to communicate warmth? Wait until she first shows s of being enthusiastic, but not before? Or should you even bother in communicating how much you really like them, especially if you're getting all the sex you can stand? Why expend more effort? But at the same time it'd be sad that employing a losing strategy in the timing and presentation of your enthusiasm that she effortlessly instills inside of you causes her to want to puke.
Why lose when you don't have to lose from bad presentation? Guess it just pays to try and see what works and what doesn't work, since each woman is different. But if you have any ideas, it'd be cool to see what you have to say. Is it because they get so much male attention, that if they start to feel less special from being in a FWB for too long, resulting in an itch to move on to one of the other readily-available male options?
Seems like your natural friend found a strategy to minimize his effort and maximize his when considering the commodity services that women provide. Neat experiences here - nice to hear from a guy who jumped into it right from the beginning it's a change of pace for me from reading the comments from guys who just want to know "how do I do this? Guys who are very fast movers in relationships tend to be emotional men, and the relationship will often end as suddenly and explosively as it began.
It's exciting the first time or two a girl experiences it, but she becomes cautious pretty fast; or, if she's been conditioned to expect she has to earn a relationship, she'll also be skeptical from Day 1 with a relationship fast-mover. If you can legitimately gush with enthusiasm and make the praise genuine, this can be effective at winning over even a lot of very skeptical girls. Men with borderline personality disorder, for instance, do this effusively, and they're very charming for a great deal of women, because they come across like the perfect passionate romancer.
I couldn't tell you exactly how to use this style, as it's different from what I'd recommend to most guys, except to say that among my friends who indulge in large doses of praise and enthusiasm, they seem to have a "dawning realization" at first "Hmm… you're actually really good at [X]"followed by gradually heaping increasing amounts of praise and enthusiasm on the other person. I'd caution you to be very careful with this though, as 1. As for women not wanting to stay in FWB, I don't think it's male attention so much as it is that the FWB relationship has fulfilled its role, and it's time to move on.
If you imagine a world without contraceptives and what role friends-with-benefits would play in that context, it'd seem to largely be one where a woman offers a man sex to try and net him into a long-term relationship, OR she sleeps with a man because he's so legitimately high value compared to her, even if he won't provide for her. If it's for a man who will provide for her young, once she realizes she's not going to get that from him, it's time to move on and find a man she can get it from, before the clock runs out on her beauty, youth, and reproductive years. If it's for his genes, well, he's got a several month window to impregnate her while she locks down a nicer guy who can take care of her and keep her clothed and fed and protected, which, if you look at a lot of girls' patterns, there are a LOT of them that very quickly follow up FWB relationships with serious relationships with "nice guys"….
He definitely seemed interested and genuine at first, and is very caring and helpful with work, because we are co workers. However, he doesn't flirt at all anymore through text messages, and doesn't text or call me to initiate any kind of communication besides work, if necessary. Why is that? Have you ever touched on the transactional interplay between the various purposes that both men and women want from each other? Let me explain what I mean. Based on this article, you imply that women tire of the FWB arrangement with men because those women have a purpose for some unknown male to fill.
Not necessarily meeting yours conversation and sex. But women are the choosers. If this is the truth, then this is another reason why men shouldn't necessarily feel all that special just for being born and existing and feeling entitled to having girls liking them!!
Because as can be seen by your article, if you fail to give girls the transactional value they desire, then they usually bail out eventually. All humans require value in their relationships, no matter what those relationships are. Self-sacrifice is not a human ethics. The thing is that woman have pluralistic sexual strategies or short-term and long-term needs.
Those needs are often met by different men, at least when women are in their 20s. FWB offers women the option of having their short-term sexual needs met; i. In essence the "alpha". Women will then get their long term commitment and comfort needs with less confident but more caring men; i. But women can also use the FWB to try and lock down a man of high value. They can try to convert a short term lover into a long term boyfriend. Thus the FWB serves a multitude of uses for a woman.
But in the end, as with all relationships, needs must be met.
And FWB arrangements do not provide for a woman's long term need. Thus she must enter into another "transaction". The transactional nature of all relationships is a fascinating subject, though not one I believe I've gone into too in-depth on its own on the site. The most relevant articles might be the one on throwing people under the bus when necessity demands or convenience allows, and the one on value imbalances. All relationships at the core can be boiled down to an exchange.
When I discuss the different kinds of exchanges in this sense, I usually differentiate between pure transactional "You give me this concrete thing, I give you that" vs. The expectation of the second type of exchange is that by giving things to you and doing things for you, over time, we're going to have an increasingly strong relationship, and you'll begin returning value to me.
If enough time goes by and I feel like my overtures are not being sufficiently reciprocated, though, I begin to believe that my relationship-building exchanges are not working, and grow disillusioned with the relationship. Relationship-building exchanges are much harder to quantify and qualify because they take so many forms and lack a clear outcome - e. It's still at the core a transactional exchange, but it's a messier transaction because it's less defined and relies more on a gut, intuitive sense. In the case of the FWB relationship, after several months go by, the woman begins feeling intuitively that her relationship-building efforts are not being reciprocated, and begins to feel like she is wasting her time, and instead of feeling good about contributing to the relationship, she begins feeling bad.
So, she starts withdrawing, and then she exits. I want to add another reason for a woman for entering the FWB. This one is probably a seldom one. For self growth and learning. The guy in this case, besides sex, is so to say a training material. I learned non reaction and non attachment this way. Plus I learned male psychology quite well. I was always choosing the same type of men - emotionally unavailable. So I decided to break a circle.
I did this with two guys who happened to be my crushes and did not want commitment. In the first case I managed to break dynamics with a man. He developed feelings. I, on the contrary have lost them by finding out that all what attracted me to him was his game. As soon as I started to see through it my behavior changed.
My value has grown, his - has fallen. Another such relationship I am in - for the same reason he does not know about it. He is already getting jealous and tries to make him jealous. I practice non reaction. Seem to work on everybody. I guess those reasons are rare but I believe other women might do this for similar purpose. Another reason if a guy has a fear of intimacy. And is very insecure but wears a mask of a bad boy - very often case. Sometimes this is the only way to get through. U put his barrier down by having no expectations. And then change the dynamics of value.
Not a fact a woman would not lose attraction afterwards - when she gets to know him closer. Awesome post. But here's another suggestion. Could you write a post on the life cycle of mLTRs? They are the more complicated relationship arrangement; essentially an open girlfriend set-up. My guess is that you have a lot of experience with these. Or at least a Life Cycle Analysis on MLTRs would at least help us recognize how to start this interesting interaction with multiple high quality girls we have in our lives.
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